Thanks for the video James. Your analysis of films is entertaining and informative. Hope to see you do more recent movies reviews in just audio as you did with Transformers 2!
I was always wondering about the 3rd one. This is one of my favorite movies of all time, but I got suddenly stumbled by the question of the whole purpose of it:)
The basic idea of the 3rd movie is to get the Time Machine going at 88mph with no fuel. BUT, why couldn’t they take some gas from the car the Doc Brown came in to 1885?
He has hidden it in mines, but hasn’t there a singe fuel drop left?
I never really liked the 3rd one. I guess it’s because you get to see all the futuristic stuff in the 2nd one, and are eager for more stuff that you haven’t seen.
But when they go back to the 1880s it’s nothing new really. That is of course compared to the 2nd one a step back in innovation. And that’s what the appeal of the 2nd one is.
It’s reasonable that the third one would not take place in the future, again. So going back further in time than the 1st only makes sense.
But still I didn’t like the “Western” theme and prefered the futuristic appeal of the 2nd one a lot more.
But very good point Profusion makes. Whats with Doc’s De Lorean in 1885. It’s probably extracted from the timeline once it’s used to go to another. But probably it’s just a time paradox you can’t really argue about
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The 3rd movie was great! I wish they could have made a fourth installment into the franchise. I hope they dont make a reboot/remake, it just would’nt be right.
Hey Profusion, it’s a great question about the fuel, and that’s one of the fun things about discussing these movies.
There’s a really cool FAQ on the DVD’s, and if I remember correctly, when they uncover the DeLorean from the mine in 1955, the Doc adds fuel to it, meaning it was empty. Because he was storing a vehicle for such a long time, he drained the fuel in 1885, before Marty’s arrival. Kinda ironic that there’s two time machines in 1885 and neither one has fuel.
Another problem, say it DID have fuel and they used that. Then there would be no time machine in the mines for Marty to use to get back to 1885. Which means he would have never been there in the first place. Gee, I don’t know. My head is already spinning.
I never really appreciated part 3.
The first two movies work very well together, there’s stuff in 1 that gets linked to in part 2 and vice versa. Part 3 doesn’t have this, it’s a movie on its own with the characters out of the first two. It simply doesn’t add to the “trilogy” so I wouldn’t consider it part of it.
parts 1 and 2 make a story. The third is just glued on to that and that makes it kind of a cheap trick to me. Something they just wanted to make money off.
Hey James. Really great to see your reply
Thanks for revealing some tips about this.
Back to the Future trilogy has been such an ispiration to me since childhood and I’ve been keeping this “fuel” quesion for years until I get a good chance to ask it
One other thing is that the year 2015, that was shown in the second movie, has made a very clear picture in my mind of how 2015 should look like. Time passes by and I feel that I shall be quite dissapointed if nothing of this comes to life Like howerboards, flying cars.. omg
P.S. Taking the opportunity I would like to thank you for the job that you are doing. Been a fan of yours for 2 years and you are only getting better at what you do. This is just the beginning, right? Good luck.
Yes!! Finally!! I was looking forward to this one. Good job James. Spot on once again. Me personally, I was a huge fan of all three of these movies and liked them all the same. The third movie though, actually had alot that had my attention because I have been, still am, and always will idol Clint Eastwood and the references always made me smile. That said. The last movie also had (in my point of view) some of the biggest flaws in the plot of all of the Back to the Future trilogy. I’ll label the two biggest that troubled me…
#1 What are the chances that Marty’s great grandmother looks exactly like but is in no relation to his mother? The McFly family is on the fathers side, not the mothers side. I kinda blew that off and said whatever.
#2 The biggest flaw and question I had was “How the hell did Doc build the second time machine?!?!?!” The only way Doc was able to make the original DeLorean time machine do what it could do was because it was nuclear. Now please tell me where Doc found plutonium (I mean it was hard enough for Doc to get it in 1985, let alone) in the west, in 1885? Say that was possible. Now tell me how he was able to harness the energy/ build a nuclear reactor with the materials he had at hand in 1885. It was a literal impossiblity even for Doc Brown. If that wasn’t enough, I had another question… “Why did Doc choose to build the second time machine after all the damage the first one did and after saying things like “I wish I never invented that infernal machine”?”.
Don’t get me wrong about the ending. I love the idea of it but as I said the possibility is VERY slim to none.
Love the vid so don’t take offense when i say that seeing a trailer for LOTR 3 at the end of the second movie would be weird but everyone knew that it was gonig to be made since Peter Jackson said he was going to make them all at once but with 1 year intervals between each release.
ALso i think it’s cool that you watch (or watched) SCTV, not many people know about it and since it’s Canadian i didn’t think an American would know about it when all my Canadian freinds don’t even know about it. Joe Flaherty though does seem out of place there tho
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James,
I really like all the effort you put into your videos and reviews. Gold stars all around.
I actually just signed up to share a link with you and others who actually read these comments. With the current theme that you’ve presented here I hope you’ll enjoy this short video. If you’re not familiar with “how it should have ended” I hope this makes a good cherry popper for you:
Back in the last 80s, early 90s, the idea of two movies shooting back-to-back was unheard of. Today, the Matrix, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Lord of the Rings did this to save some money on budget. I wasn’t old enough to go see Part II and III in ‘89 and ‘90 but for die hard BTTF fans, that must of been a trip. Especially seeing the trailer for Part III after Part II was just over.
Back to the Future will always remain the best movie of the trilogy. It’s really my favorite movie of all-time. I have a hard time deciding whether or not Raiders of the Lost Ark or Back to the Future is. They are both perfect movies to me, IMO. Anyway, Part II as good but I thought Part III was better. Just felt that way, I enjoyed it better and it was slightly less ridiculous than Part II. Still, the trilogy as a whole was great and it’s up there with the original Star Wars trilogy, Lord of the Rings, & Indiana Jones as one of the best film trilogies. Just wish it was on Blu-Ray.
James said the first movie was about Marty, the second one, about Biff, and the third one about Doc.
On the DVDs, Robert Zemeckis said the first movie was about George McFly. I didn’t agree much, but it was probably about points of view. I like James’ opinion more.
Robert doesn’t talk about the second movie, but I too think it was about Biff. It was Biff this and Biff that. I love it that the story goes around the story of the first movie, but showing things the first movie didn’t show. Like Lorraine buying the dress, or when Biff discovers how much will cost for the repairment, which he mentioned in the first movie, or Doc working on the DeLorean while Marty is at the dance, still trying to save his life. Apparently, Doc was about to use the wrong tool, but the Present-day Doc was there to correct him. LOL It’s funny and strange that we see the old Biff returning from 1955 before we see him actually there.
The third movie is definitely about Doc, just as James and Robert said. The 1955 Doc talking about Jules Vern as he and Marty went to get the Delorean, he falling in love, his family, the fact Marty goes to the past because of him,…
Wasn’t the DeLorean that got struck by lightning and took the Doc back to 1885 the one he amped up in the future with “Mr. Fusion”? So why would there even be fuel in it?
@DawnofRobby
There was still one DeLorean left in 1885 after Marty went back to 1985. My guess is Doc took the parts out of the DeLorean he hid for Marty in the cave.
@Emperor
What about the DeLorean old Biff from the future went back to 1955? During the movie there were four different DeLoreans in 1955:
– The one from the first movie
– The one old Biff traveled back with from 2015 to 1955 to give the Almanac to his young self
– The one Doc and Marty traveled back to destroy the Alamanac
– The one from 1885
As for the movies I love every one of ‘em. When I watch them I always do a triple feature watching all three movies in a row. That’s the way these movies are meant to watch IMO. I love how everything is connected
The Mr Fusion just builds up the 1.21 GW for the flux capacitor, all other functions stil running with gasoline. Also I don’t think that Doc uses the parts from the hidden DeLorean, because it still needs to be in the cave, so Marty can find it in 1955, go back, save Doc etc. If Doc would use it after the events in 1885, he would create an alternative time line and would end up dead again, cause Marty couldn’t save him, because there would be no Deloean anymore in 1955.. Maan, it’s really head-spinning and I guess that some things are just not really plausible, cause the writers didn’t thought that far.
Like the thing, that Marty had to disappear right after pushin his dad off the road. Again he created an alternative time line in which he no longer exists, cause his parents never fall in love. If Doc could set them up again, it could change things back and Marty would appear again. Problem here, Doc wouldn’t remeber Marty cause in the alternative time line, he never existed. So it’s all pretty complex, but we shouldn’t think too much about these things, it’s great entertainment, for me that is the only important thing.
It’s funny. In regards to the second and third films, my opinion’s pretty much the opposite of James’.
I find the second film badly-plotted and redundant, kind of dead in the water. By contrast, the third movie feels original, exciting, and, in a lot of ways, much more in line with the adventurous spirit of the first film.
I won’t bother to back those up unless someone asks–however, I will say that Confused Matthew’s review of Back to the Future Part 2 pretty much covers many of the objections I had to the movie last time I watched it.
That said, I still enjoy the trilogy, and the first movie is still my favorite. Thanks for the reviews, James!
man i love these movies when i was a kid, haven’t seen them in ages so it was nice to see a little review again, thanks James!
oh btw about the delorean hidden in the cave, this is my theory (remember i haven’t seen the whole movie in years so i can be totally wrong!)
i guess it went like this: doc went to the past in the wild west.. he wanted marty to come so he sends a letter to the post office that must be delivered decades later, can’t he do the same to the delorean? hide it in a cave while doc is in the past so marty could find it years later?
I like BTTF 3 more than part 2. Just my personal opinion. And yeah, I could talk about these movies forever. They are some of my favorite movies ever made and I consider Back To The Future the best film of the 80s.
Actually, I think there are quite a few time machines in 1955 at the same time.
All of these time machines eventually leave 1955:
1. BF1’s Time Machine (marty uses to get back first movie)
2. Future Biff’s time machine (leaves when Future biff goes back to the future)
3. BF2’s hover-delorian (leaves when struck by lightning)
4. BF3’s delorian sitting in a cave (leaves to go to wild west)
All 4 of these delorians are in the same time period at the same time.
Actually there is an answer to your one question about marty’s great grandmother looking like his mother. In the documentary that came with the dvd box set, they mentioned that they purposely did that to joke and make reference to the idea that men tend to marry women that physically resemble their mothers/grandmothers.
Interesting review. Altough I don’t remember as much from all the three movies then you guys, I did like the third one because it was funny to see Doc and Marty (and especially Bill!) into the Wild West. I thought there were a lot of funny stuff in it..
Like, I remember Bill(well..his ancestor I mean) talking to Marty in the saloon and made fun of his shoes and said something to Marty like “Ni-Ké (Nike )? what kind of an Indian name is that??). Something about the way Bill said it and the word joke made me laugh several times..
So perhaps it wasn’t the best one of the three, I did enjoy this one tough.
But yeah the third one is perhaps a bit different then the other first two so I understand that it was perhaps a more unnecessary(think that’s how it’s spelled..) film.
But again, it was a clear and interesting movie review. Can’t wait for more
Now for me BTTF 3 was my personal favourite. Something about part 2’s story put me off; it seemed a bit too out of left-field, even by time-travel standards. I think part 3 on the whole is a tighter, more focused film, with the focus remaining on the story and the characters.
Still, the Back to the Future trilogy is one of the few consistently good film trilogies out there. Together the series makes for probably the best use of the time-travel concept in film history; they’re certainly among my all-time favourite movies.
I’ve enjoyed this little review series. It’s been well thought-out, constructive and even-handed, making it a real pleasure to listen to your opinions.
You also gave us a big tip. Who the fuck would know the first time watching that Clint Eastwood starred in those two movies? And THEN that it was 1955, the correct year those movies existed?
After seeing Monster Madness, we sure did.
(Bonus points go to anyone who knows what AVGN that phrase above was from)
@ElHive
If Doc used the Delorean that was hidden away, then how did Marty find the vehicle in 1955? Doc couldn’t mess with the car in anyway because even the smallest change can make it so Marty wouldn’t be able to return to his own time or save Doc. Doc is smart enough NOT to go anywhere near the vehicle after it was left. That sounds like a good idea but it wouldnt work.
@Hituro
Yeah I guess it makes a little sence but still, the odds would be rare.
These discussions are interesting- I knew I wasn’t the only one who thought about that stuff!
@You Can Just Walk Over It:
Wasn’t it Nintendo Power? For some reason I think it could be Milon’s Secret Castle, or maybe Virtual Boy… um… oh man haven’t seen those in a while- uh I’m goin with Nintendo Power, final answer!
I’m reposting this from the other site as there’s more posts here.
I’m surprised how lowly rated this film is. I loved it including Clara. I think thhey wanted to give the characters a journey and a closure. I know the chicken thing started for Marty in the 2nd film but you could tell he had an attitude in the first film. ~refusing to back down to Biff even though him doing so is attracting his mums interest.
Unable to resist playing a rock song despite a tight schedule.
People do strange things for love, Docs always been show to be lonely Marty’s his only friend, people in 1985 thought he was mad. #Then he connects with a woman, no wonder his judgement is impaired. Its also nice that doc got something good from inventing time travel after all he’s been through because of it.
The repeated themes were done on purpose to highlight how history often repeats itself. But highlights two people breaking the pattern.
Docs no longer alone
Marty no longer has to prove himself to idiots.
I think part 3 is slightly better than part two. But the first film is the best.
With all the remakes there have been i wonder if anyone will dare to remake this trilogy, i hope not.
I really enjoy your reviews and regularly check back for them even if I don’t always agree with your opinion they always make me laugh.
James, You’re very talented!!!
Would You do me a favor?
Could You pick on twilight? I mean I hate this movie, that sucks!!
and by the way You don’t have haters yet, which isn’t normal, but at least You’d get these little girls who are obsessed with Twilight, because it makes their pussies so wet as possible..
So could You cheer me up and tease that movie/book?
The problem of having several Deloreans at the same time isn’t the most controversial in the movie. For me, it’s the infinite loop, that is, the problem of not having a ’start point’ for some event lines. Let me explain. In the first movie, Marty goes back to 1955 and makes Doc aware of the time machine he hasn’t even created yet (Doc learns not only of the flux capacitor, but of the actual machine as well and even gets to work on it). Marty pretty much gives Doc the idea of Delorean. The fact that Doc will have created Delorean in the future (sometime between 1955 and 1985) is caused by Marty in 1955. But if the creation of time machine is caused by Marty in the past, there is no originality about it. [b] In a sense, it is created just to serve as means for future Marty to get back to the past and provoke its creation. [/b] I’d sure be glad if anyone would actually see what I’m saying here, but just give it a thought and it will become clear to you.
But I agree, the movie is really fun to watch and if don’t get into the paradoxal stuff you’ll be fine.
Nice observation, but it was not the only reference to Clint Eastwood in the movie.
At the end, when Marty gets shot by Tannen, he has the woodstove door attached to his chest right?
That’s a direct reference to A Fistful of Dollars, in which Eastwood survives the showdown at the end because of a metallic plate (I think it was also a woodstove door) attached to his chest.
I like the third one, it was pretty cool that it took place in the old west. I don’t know, the old west and a lot it has within it has just always had some kind of a charm to me.
But yeah, the movie was great in wrapping up the trilogy and working out the possible future Marty could have. It was great how it all turned out.
As for the sub-plot of Clara…I have to agree, I didn’t much like it myself. Don’t get me wrong, it was interesting to give Doc a little something extra, but it just didn’t sit well with me.
That’s just me, because I often see characters that I feel should be single. Not that they don’t deserve love, just that sometimes…well, you know. Sometimes it’s just more pleasing when a certain character doesn’t have someone on their arm. Hey, I love romance as much as the next girl but sometimes it just doesn’t work.
Anyway, overall, it was a great movie. Especially bringing in some gags from the previous movies. XD And it was cool how it was all about trying to get the DeLorean to work again, which was neat.
Even if it’s not considered as good as the other two, I still think it’s a great way to end it.
And oh!
Yes, you were right about the DVD FAQ thing, I remember reading it a few years ago, and even finding the question and answer about the fuel thing. I think you’re right, the gasoline must have been evaporated or something by the time Doc and Marty found the DeLorean in 1955. And he DID say he replaced the fuel, too… Ah! My head’s spinning, too!
Oh.
And I laughed still at how you pointed out Marty’s referral to the two movie posters of Clint Eastwood’s earlier work. In the novel version of the movie, it even had Marty realizing that Clint Eastwood hadn’t made it big or even made a Western until the 60’s, so it was part of why he said “Oh that’s right, you haven’t heard of him yet.”
Ah, classic. I still say that the Back To the Future trilogy is without a doubt a timeless classic. Pun intended.
actually I liked this one better than the second part, because it had that light atmosphere known from the first movie. part 2 was very dark and creepy, Hill Valley turned into hell and it just didn’t feel like the same Back To The Future, and it wasn’t as funny as the others either. but it’s still a good movie though. actually this movie was made when I was born, so I’m disappointed I couldn’t see it on the big screen. anyway – great movie trilogy, great review trilogy
i see what you mean, it’s like if you go back in time and kill yourself, would you be dead? (because if you kill your past self your future self wouldn’t exist to kill you)
that’s why i don’t believe in the concept of time.
i still like time traveling movies though :-p
the third one was always my favourite. I know the storyline isn’t as good, but the characters are awesome and there are some hilarious one-liners in there…thanks for the awesome review!
The first one is my absolute favorite. But I admit, the third one has it’s moments. I like that little twist with the Clint Eastwood-posters. You must have seen the move one trillion times to notice that:)
To those who are scratching their heads about Doc Brown’s “futuristic” ELB train at the end of Part III (and you too James, just in case you didn’t understand it either):
Although it is not addressed in the movie, we are suppose to assume Doc Brown built a more primitive version of a time machine out of a locomotive (with primitive parts to make a flux capacitor) in the 1880’s-1890’s. In it, he travels to the future with his wife Clara and his two kids. While in the future (maybe 2015 or much later), he modifies it with a hover conversion and adds more parts to it to make it a more powerful time machine. After this, he returns to 1985 to pay Marty and Jennifer a visit as he did at the end of Part III.
The closing dialogue at the end where Marty asks, “Hey Doc, where are you going now? Back to the future?” to which Doc replies, “Nope. Already been there!” followed by the ELB train flying away — this is suppose to imply the idea that Doc just came back from the future with his train, and is now on his way embark on another time traveling adventure with his family.
It took me awhile to figure that out, but it all makes perfect sense.
Hi james. I love your website, you’ve done a great job. lemmie just get to the point. I think it would be cool if you would talk about doctor who. I don’t know if you watched it as a child but here in london its a cultural program. I hope you review the old doctor who and the new because I’ve started to watch the new one and I have to say david tennant is the best doctor and I hate to see him go . see ya and gd luck with your success.
That was awesome. I remember those movies as a kid and they impacted me so much that I made a time machine. I didnt want to tell anyone but I am revealing it on here exclusively. If you wanna go back in time James let me know. I got a rambler with a plutonium-fueled nuclear reactor generating the required 1.21 gigawatts of power needed for time travel. Let me know!
When studios were asking about a sequel to Back to the Future, the writers wrote a very long story about going into the future, back to the present, and back to the west all for one movie, but it was far longer than one movie would allow for.
Thus they said “we have the scripts for part 2 and part 3″, but were told “we only want part 2″. Problem is, watching part 2 leaves a lot out and you have to watch 2 and 3 back to back to see how things were meant to be played out.
This is all in the special features of the DVD Trilogy which I’ve spent the time to actually watch. They did a good job with those and I learned a lot watching them.
Love your reviews James
P.S: My AVG CCG is still in the works it was just on hold for the fall college semester.
Oh, finally! Love this flick
Thanks for the video James. Your analysis of films is entertaining and informative. Hope to see you do more recent movies reviews in just audio as you did with Transformers 2!
I actually liked this movie over the first two films. But that is just me.
Well done James.I enjoy all of your reviews. keep them coming.
Great job, James! Most people I’ve come across seem to just dismiss this movie all together. You did a nice job weighing the highs and lows of it.
I was always wondering about the 3rd one. This is one of my favorite movies of all time, but I got suddenly stumbled by the question of the whole purpose of it:)
The basic idea of the 3rd movie is to get the Time Machine going at 88mph with no fuel. BUT, why couldn’t they take some gas from the car the Doc Brown came in to 1885?
He has hidden it in mines, but hasn’t there a singe fuel drop left?
The “Back To The Future” Trilogy is great.
For the me third BTTF movie is better than
for example the third Matrix movie.
I never really liked the 3rd one. I guess it’s because you get to see all the futuristic stuff in the 2nd one, and are eager for more stuff that you haven’t seen.
But when they go back to the 1880s it’s nothing new really. That is of course compared to the 2nd one a step back in innovation. And that’s what the appeal of the 2nd one is.
It’s reasonable that the third one would not take place in the future, again. So going back further in time than the 1st only makes sense.
But still I didn’t like the “Western” theme and prefered the futuristic appeal of the 2nd one a lot more.
But very good point Profusion makes. Whats with Doc’s De Lorean in 1885. It’s probably extracted from the timeline once it’s used to go to another. But probably it’s just a time paradox you can’t really argue about
haha it’s weird if you check out rotten tomatoes they actually consider part 2 to be the black sheep of the bunch, although 1 and 2 are my favorites
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The 3rd movie was great! I wish they could have made a fourth installment into the franchise. I hope they dont make a reboot/remake, it just would’nt be right.
Hey Profusion, it’s a great question about the fuel, and that’s one of the fun things about discussing these movies.
There’s a really cool FAQ on the DVD’s, and if I remember correctly, when they uncover the DeLorean from the mine in 1955, the Doc adds fuel to it, meaning it was empty. Because he was storing a vehicle for such a long time, he drained the fuel in 1885, before Marty’s arrival. Kinda ironic that there’s two time machines in 1885 and neither one has fuel.
Another problem, say it DID have fuel and they used that. Then there would be no time machine in the mines for Marty to use to get back to 1885. Which means he would have never been there in the first place. Gee, I don’t know. My head is already spinning.
I consider “Back to the Future Part III” to be the low point in the franchise but it was great review. Thank you for the “Back to the Future” reviews.
I never really appreciated part 3.
The first two movies work very well together, there’s stuff in 1 that gets linked to in part 2 and vice versa. Part 3 doesn’t have this, it’s a movie on its own with the characters out of the first two. It simply doesn’t add to the “trilogy” so I wouldn’t consider it part of it.
parts 1 and 2 make a story. The third is just glued on to that and that makes it kind of a cheap trick to me. Something they just wanted to make money off.
You are WRONG There are three time machines in 1955.
* The one from the first movie.
* The one when they return to destroy the almanac.
* The one from 1885.
Great review, James. You always manage to be entertaining and fair with your reviews. Keep up the good work!
James knows some SCTV, it seems.
Hey James. Really great to see your reply
Thanks for revealing some tips about this.
Back to the Future trilogy has been such an ispiration to me since childhood and I’ve been keeping this “fuel” quesion for years until I get a good chance to ask it
Like howerboards, flying cars.. omg
One other thing is that the year 2015, that was shown in the second movie, has made a very clear picture in my mind of how 2015 should look like. Time passes by and I feel that I shall be quite dissapointed if nothing of this comes to life
P.S. Taking the opportunity I would like to thank you for the job that you are doing. Been a fan of yours for 2 years and you are only getting better at what you do. This is just the beginning, right?
Good luck.
@Slunk
It’s not only you, I loved the third one. But I extremely disliked the second one.
Yes!! Finally!! I was looking forward to this one. Good job James. Spot on once again. Me personally, I was a huge fan of all three of these movies and liked them all the same. The third movie though, actually had alot that had my attention because I have been, still am, and always will idol Clint Eastwood and the references always made me smile. That said. The last movie also had (in my point of view) some of the biggest flaws in the plot of all of the Back to the Future trilogy. I’ll label the two biggest that troubled me…
#1 What are the chances that Marty’s great grandmother looks exactly like but is in no relation to his mother? The McFly family is on the fathers side, not the mothers side. I kinda blew that off and said whatever.
#2 The biggest flaw and question I had was “How the hell did Doc build the second time machine?!?!?!” The only way Doc was able to make the original DeLorean time machine do what it could do was because it was nuclear. Now please tell me where Doc found plutonium (I mean it was hard enough for Doc to get it in 1985, let alone) in the west, in 1885? Say that was possible. Now tell me how he was able to harness the energy/ build a nuclear reactor with the materials he had at hand in 1885. It was a literal impossiblity even for Doc Brown. If that wasn’t enough, I had another question… “Why did Doc choose to build the second time machine after all the damage the first one did and after saying things like “I wish I never invented that infernal machine”?”.
Don’t get me wrong about the ending. I love the idea of it but as I said the possibility is VERY slim to none.
Love the vid so don’t take offense when i say that seeing a trailer for LOTR 3 at the end of the second movie would be weird but everyone knew that it was gonig to be made since Peter Jackson said he was going to make them all at once but with 1 year intervals between each release.
ALso i think it’s cool that you watch (or watched) SCTV, not many people know about it and since it’s Canadian i didn’t think an American would know about it when all my Canadian freinds don’t even know about it. Joe Flaherty though does seem out of place there tho
Listen people:
There is only ONE time machine. Well, one DeLorean anyway. The train is a different thing.
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James,
I really like all the effort you put into your videos and reviews. Gold stars all around.
I actually just signed up to share a link with you and others who actually read these comments. With the current theme that you’ve presented here I hope you’ll enjoy this short video. If you’re not familiar with “how it should have ended” I hope this makes a good cherry popper for you:
http://www.howitshouldhaveended.com/videos?bcpid=51434042001&bclid=41247345001&bctid=40751378001
Back in the last 80s, early 90s, the idea of two movies shooting back-to-back was unheard of. Today, the Matrix, Pirates of the Caribbean, and Lord of the Rings did this to save some money on budget. I wasn’t old enough to go see Part II and III in ‘89 and ‘90 but for die hard BTTF fans, that must of been a trip. Especially seeing the trailer for Part III after Part II was just over.
Back to the Future will always remain the best movie of the trilogy. It’s really my favorite movie of all-time. I have a hard time deciding whether or not Raiders of the Lost Ark or Back to the Future is. They are both perfect movies to me, IMO. Anyway, Part II as good but I thought Part III was better. Just felt that way, I enjoyed it better and it was slightly less ridiculous than Part II. Still, the trilogy as a whole was great and it’s up there with the original Star Wars trilogy, Lord of the Rings, & Indiana Jones as one of the best film trilogies. Just wish it was on Blu-Ray.
I loved BTF 1 and 2, but hated 3.
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James said the first movie was about Marty, the second one, about Biff, and the third one about Doc.
On the DVDs, Robert Zemeckis said the first movie was about George McFly. I didn’t agree much, but it was probably about points of view. I like James’ opinion more.
Robert doesn’t talk about the second movie, but I too think it was about Biff. It was Biff this and Biff that. I love it that the story goes around the story of the first movie, but showing things the first movie didn’t show. Like Lorraine buying the dress, or when Biff discovers how much will cost for the repairment, which he mentioned in the first movie, or Doc working on the DeLorean while Marty is at the dance, still trying to save his life. Apparently, Doc was about to use the wrong tool, but the Present-day Doc was there to correct him. LOL It’s funny and strange that we see the old Biff returning from 1955 before we see him actually there.
The third movie is definitely about Doc, just as James and Robert said. The 1955 Doc talking about Jules Vern as he and Marty went to get the Delorean, he falling in love, his family, the fact Marty goes to the past because of him,…
@James and Profusion
Wasn’t the DeLorean that got struck by lightning and took the Doc back to 1885 the one he amped up in the future with “Mr. Fusion”? So why would there even be fuel in it?
@DawnofRobby
There was still one DeLorean left in 1885 after Marty went back to 1985. My guess is Doc took the parts out of the DeLorean he hid for Marty in the cave.
@Emperor
What about the DeLorean old Biff from the future went back to 1955? During the movie there were four different DeLoreans in 1955:
– The one from the first movie
– The one old Biff traveled back with from 2015 to 1955 to give the Almanac to his young self
– The one Doc and Marty traveled back to destroy the Alamanac
– The one from 1885
As for the movies I love every one of ‘em. When I watch them I always do a triple feature watching all three movies in a row. That’s the way these movies are meant to watch IMO. I love how everything is connected
@ElHive
The Mr Fusion just builds up the 1.21 GW for the flux capacitor, all other functions stil running with gasoline. Also I don’t think that Doc uses the parts from the hidden DeLorean, because it still needs to be in the cave, so Marty can find it in 1955, go back, save Doc etc. If Doc would use it after the events in 1885, he would create an alternative time line and would end up dead again, cause Marty couldn’t save him, because there would be no Deloean anymore in 1955.. Maan, it’s really head-spinning and I guess that some things are just not really plausible, cause the writers didn’t thought that far.
Like the thing, that Marty had to disappear right after pushin his dad off the road. Again he created an alternative time line in which he no longer exists, cause his parents never fall in love. If Doc could set them up again, it could change things back and Marty would appear again. Problem here, Doc wouldn’t remeber Marty cause in the alternative time line, he never existed. So it’s all pretty complex, but we shouldn’t think too much about these things, it’s great entertainment, for me that is the only important thing.
It’s funny. In regards to the second and third films, my opinion’s pretty much the opposite of James’.
I find the second film badly-plotted and redundant, kind of dead in the water. By contrast, the third movie feels original, exciting, and, in a lot of ways, much more in line with the adventurous spirit of the first film.
I won’t bother to back those up unless someone asks–however, I will say that Confused Matthew’s review of Back to the Future Part 2 pretty much covers many of the objections I had to the movie last time I watched it.
That said, I still enjoy the trilogy, and the first movie is still my favorite. Thanks for the reviews, James!
man i love these movies when i was a kid, haven’t seen them in ages so it was nice to see a little review again, thanks James!
oh btw about the delorean hidden in the cave, this is my theory (remember i haven’t seen the whole movie in years so i can be totally wrong!)
i guess it went like this: doc went to the past in the wild west.. he wanted marty to come so he sends a letter to the post office that must be delivered decades later, can’t he do the same to the delorean? hide it in a cave while doc is in the past so marty could find it years later?
I like BTTF 3 more than part 2. Just my personal opinion. And yeah, I could talk about these movies forever. They are some of my favorite movies ever made and I consider Back To The Future the best film of the 80s.
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# of time machines.
Actually, I think there are quite a few time machines in 1955 at the same time.
All of these time machines eventually leave 1955:
1. BF1’s Time Machine (marty uses to get back first movie)
2. Future Biff’s time machine (leaves when Future biff goes back to the future)
3. BF2’s hover-delorian (leaves when struck by lightning)
4. BF3’s delorian sitting in a cave (leaves to go to wild west)
All 4 of these delorians are in the same time period at the same time.
Was ZZ Top in the actual movie during the concert? Or was that just a band they got to play a version of Doubleback?
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to DawnofRobby
Actually there is an answer to your one question about marty’s great grandmother looking like his mother. In the documentary that came with the dvd box set, they mentioned that they purposely did that to joke and make reference to the idea that men tend to marry women that physically resemble their mothers/grandmothers.
Hey,
Interesting review. Altough I don’t remember as much from all the three movies then you guys, I did like the third one because it was funny to see Doc and Marty (and especially Bill!) into the Wild West. I thought there were a lot of funny stuff in it..
Like, I remember Bill(well..his ancestor I mean) talking to Marty in the saloon and made fun of his shoes and said something to Marty like “Ni-Ké (Nike
)? what kind of an Indian name is that??). Something about the way Bill said it and the word joke made me laugh several times..
So perhaps it wasn’t the best one of the three, I did enjoy this one tough.
But yeah the third one is perhaps a bit different then the other first two so I understand that it was perhaps a more unnecessary(think that’s how it’s spelled..) film.
But again, it was a clear and interesting movie review. Can’t wait for more
Now for me BTTF 3 was my personal favourite. Something about part 2’s story put me off; it seemed a bit too out of left-field, even by time-travel standards. I think part 3 on the whole is a tighter, more focused film, with the focus remaining on the story and the characters.
Still, the Back to the Future trilogy is one of the few consistently good film trilogies out there. Together the series makes for probably the best use of the time-travel concept in film history; they’re certainly among my all-time favourite movies.
I’ve enjoyed this little review series. It’s been well thought-out, constructive and even-handed, making it a real pleasure to listen to your opinions.
You also gave us a big tip. Who the fuck would know the first time watching that Clint Eastwood starred in those two movies? And THEN that it was 1955, the correct year those movies existed?
After seeing Monster Madness, we sure did.
(Bonus points go to anyone who knows what AVGN that phrase above was from)
Look what have you done! Now I want to go and buy the trilogy!
Ya, too many squeals. They did not need a third one…
@ElHive
If Doc used the Delorean that was hidden away, then how did Marty find the vehicle in 1955? Doc couldn’t mess with the car in anyway because even the smallest change can make it so Marty wouldn’t be able to return to his own time or save Doc. Doc is smart enough NOT to go anywhere near the vehicle after it was left. That sounds like a good idea but it wouldnt work.
@Hituro
Yeah I guess it makes a little sence but still, the odds would be rare.
These discussions are interesting- I knew I wasn’t the only one who thought about that stuff!
@You Can Just Walk Over It:
Wasn’t it Nintendo Power? For some reason I think it could be Milon’s Secret Castle, or maybe Virtual Boy… um… oh man haven’t seen those in a while- uh I’m goin with Nintendo Power, final answer!
No, it was “The Wizard,” when he’s talking about the secrets in SMB3
I’m reposting this from the other site as there’s more posts here.
I’m surprised how lowly rated this film is. I loved it including Clara. I think thhey wanted to give the characters a journey and a closure. I know the chicken thing started for Marty in the 2nd film but you could tell he had an attitude in the first film. ~refusing to back down to Biff even though him doing so is attracting his mums interest.
Unable to resist playing a rock song despite a tight schedule.
People do strange things for love, Docs always been show to be lonely Marty’s his only friend, people in 1985 thought he was mad. #Then he connects with a woman, no wonder his judgement is impaired. Its also nice that doc got something good from inventing time travel after all he’s been through because of it.
The repeated themes were done on purpose to highlight how history often repeats itself. But highlights two people breaking the pattern.
Docs no longer alone
Marty no longer has to prove himself to idiots.
I think part 3 is slightly better than part two. But the first film is the best.
With all the remakes there have been i wonder if anyone will dare to remake this trilogy, i hope not.
I really enjoy your reviews and regularly check back for them even if I don’t always agree with your opinion they always make me laugh.
I always liked 3 besides 1 and 2.. I never had as much fun watching it as I did 2, but I really learned to appreciate it as I grew up.
James, You’re very talented!!!
Would You do me a favor?
Could You pick on twilight? I mean I hate this movie, that sucks!!
and by the way You don’t have haters yet, which isn’t normal, but at least You’d get these little girls who are obsessed with Twilight, because it makes their pussies so wet as possible..
So could You cheer me up and tease that movie/book?
Nice Job james!!!! http://www.mattmoviesets.weebly.com
The problem of having several Deloreans at the same time isn’t the most controversial in the movie. For me, it’s the infinite loop, that is, the problem of not having a ’start point’ for some event lines. Let me explain. In the first movie, Marty goes back to 1955 and makes Doc aware of the time machine he hasn’t even created yet (Doc learns not only of the flux capacitor, but of the actual machine as well and even gets to work on it). Marty pretty much gives Doc the idea of Delorean. The fact that Doc will have created Delorean in the future (sometime between 1955 and 1985) is caused by Marty in 1955. But if the creation of time machine is caused by Marty in the past, there is no originality about it. [b] In a sense, it is created just to serve as means for future Marty to get back to the past and provoke its creation. [/b] I’d sure be glad if anyone would actually see what I’m saying here, but just give it a thought and it will become clear to you.
But I agree, the movie is really fun to watch and if don’t get into the paradoxal stuff you’ll be fine.
Nice observation, but it was not the only reference to Clint Eastwood in the movie.
At the end, when Marty gets shot by Tannen, he has the woodstove door attached to his chest right?
That’s a direct reference to A Fistful of Dollars, in which Eastwood survives the showdown at the end because of a metallic plate (I think it was also a woodstove door) attached to his chest.
I like the third one, it was pretty cool that it took place in the old west. I don’t know, the old west and a lot it has within it has just always had some kind of a charm to me.
But yeah, the movie was great in wrapping up the trilogy and working out the possible future Marty could have. It was great how it all turned out.
As for the sub-plot of Clara…I have to agree, I didn’t much like it myself. Don’t get me wrong, it was interesting to give Doc a little something extra, but it just didn’t sit well with me.
That’s just me, because I often see characters that I feel should be single. Not that they don’t deserve love, just that sometimes…well, you know. Sometimes it’s just more pleasing when a certain character doesn’t have someone on their arm. Hey, I love romance as much as the next girl but sometimes it just doesn’t work.
Anyway, overall, it was a great movie. Especially bringing in some gags from the previous movies. XD And it was cool how it was all about trying to get the DeLorean to work again, which was neat.
Even if it’s not considered as good as the other two, I still think it’s a great way to end it.
And oh!
Yes, you were right about the DVD FAQ thing, I remember reading it a few years ago, and even finding the question and answer about the fuel thing. I think you’re right, the gasoline must have been evaporated or something by the time Doc and Marty found the DeLorean in 1955. And he DID say he replaced the fuel, too… Ah! My head’s spinning, too!
Oh.
And I laughed still at how you pointed out Marty’s referral to the two movie posters of Clint Eastwood’s earlier work. In the novel version of the movie, it even had Marty realizing that Clint Eastwood hadn’t made it big or even made a Western until the 60’s, so it was part of why he said “Oh that’s right, you haven’t heard of him yet.”
Ah, classic.
I still say that the Back To the Future trilogy is without a doubt a timeless classic. Pun intended.
actually I liked this one better than the second part, because it had that light atmosphere known from the first movie. part 2 was very dark and creepy, Hill Valley turned into hell and it just didn’t feel like the same Back To The Future, and it wasn’t as funny as the others either. but it’s still a good movie though. actually this movie was made when I was born, so I’m disappointed I couldn’t see it on the big screen. anyway – great movie trilogy, great review trilogy
@ Nebuchadnezzaurus.
i see what you mean, it’s like if you go back in time and kill yourself, would you be dead? (because if you kill your past self your future self wouldn’t exist to kill you)
that’s why i don’t believe in the concept of time.
i still like time traveling movies though :-p
the third one was always my favourite. I know the storyline isn’t as good, but the characters are awesome and there are some hilarious one-liners in there…thanks for the awesome review!
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The first one is my absolute favorite. But I admit, the third one has it’s moments. I like that little twist with the Clint Eastwood-posters. You must have seen the move one trillion times to notice that:)
Daveigus, yeah, that’s pretty much what I meant. This is what all time travel flicks are like – fun and confusing.
To those who are scratching their heads about Doc Brown’s “futuristic” ELB train at the end of Part III (and you too James, just in case you didn’t understand it either):
Although it is not addressed in the movie, we are suppose to assume Doc Brown built a more primitive version of a time machine out of a locomotive (with primitive parts to make a flux capacitor) in the 1880’s-1890’s. In it, he travels to the future with his wife Clara and his two kids. While in the future (maybe 2015 or much later), he modifies it with a hover conversion and adds more parts to it to make it a more powerful time machine. After this, he returns to 1985 to pay Marty and Jennifer a visit as he did at the end of Part III.
The closing dialogue at the end where Marty asks, “Hey Doc, where are you going now? Back to the future?” to which Doc replies, “Nope. Already been there!” followed by the ELB train flying away — this is suppose to imply the idea that Doc just came back from the future with his train, and is now on his way embark on another time traveling adventure with his family.
It took me awhile to figure that out, but it all makes perfect sense.
Hi james. I love your website, you’ve done a great job. lemmie just get to the point. I think it would be cool if you would talk about doctor who. I don’t know if you watched it as a child but here in london its a cultural program. I hope you review the old doctor who and the new because I’ve started to watch the new one and I have to say david tennant is the best doctor and I hate to see him go
. see ya and gd luck with your success.
That was awesome. I remember those movies as a kid and they impacted me so much that I made a time machine. I didnt want to tell anyone but I am revealing it on here exclusively. If you wanna go back in time James let me know. I got a rambler with a plutonium-fueled nuclear reactor generating the required 1.21 gigawatts of power needed for time travel. Let me know!
When studios were asking about a sequel to Back to the Future, the writers wrote a very long story about going into the future, back to the present, and back to the west all for one movie, but it was far longer than one movie would allow for.
Thus they said “we have the scripts for part 2 and part 3″, but were told “we only want part 2″. Problem is, watching part 2 leaves a lot out and you have to watch 2 and 3 back to back to see how things were meant to be played out.
This is all in the special features of the DVD Trilogy which I’ve spent the time to actually watch. They did a good job with those and I learned a lot watching them.
Love your reviews James
P.S: My AVG CCG is still in the works it was just on hold for the fall college semester.
You guys have to check out this video. It’s a Crysis mod that has a working Delorean in it. When I mean working I mean it does everything.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZAaKH0FYO8&feature=player_embedded
I loved this movie as a kid, all BTTF 1 & 2 are the best movies from the 80’s!
James dude! you have to watch this shit!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeO-MK0xUP4